Comments on: OpenID + Information Cards… https://www.incontextblog.com/?p=23 Thu, 11 Sep 2014 22:21:40 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.1 By: paul https://www.incontextblog.com/?p=23&cpage=1#comment-7455 paul Wed, 27 Aug 2008 20:41:31 +0000 https://www.incontextblog.com/?p=23#comment-7455 Jay, You are correct that i-names can be used as OpenIDs. I don’t know if it’s written up anywhere how to use an i-name as an OpenID because all you do is type your i-name into an OpenID login box just like you would type in a URL. For example, I type “=paul.trevithick” and click Login. However it is true that not all OpenID-enabled sites accept i-names yet, because support for i-names didn’t come until OpenID 2.0. Plaxo (www.plaxo.com <https://www.plaxo.com/> ) is an example of a site that supports OpenID 2.0 including i-names for login. The pages I’d recommend for more information about OpenID and its uses are: https://openid.net/what/ https://openid.net/where/ https://openid.net/get/ The page that further explains personal i-names and their uses is https://www.inames.net/personal.html. As for the future of OpenID and i-names, I’d put it this way: while Web single sign-on is a good example of how they can be used, I think it’s only the tip of the iceburg. I suspect the most compelling reason to have a personal digital address (that’s not an email address) will be for personal data and relationship management services, such as person-to-person or person-to-business sharing of r-cards (relationship cards, a new type of information card <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I-card> ). This is the type of thing we’re been developing the open source Higgins project <https://www.eclipse.org/higgins/> to enable. Besides sheer convenience and privacy protection, this could enable whole new industries such as Vendor Relationship Management – see the VRM Project <https://projectvrm.org/> spearheaded by Doc Searls. Hope this helps. Jay,

You are correct that i-names can be used as OpenIDs. I don’t know if it’s written up anywhere how to use an i-name as an OpenID because all you do is type your i-name into an OpenID login box just like you would type in a URL. For example, I type “=paul.trevithick” and click Login. However it is true that not all OpenID-enabled sites accept i-names yet, because support for i-names didn’t come until OpenID 2.0.

Plaxo (www.plaxo.com ) is an example of a site that supports OpenID 2.0 including i-names for login.

The pages I’d recommend for more information about OpenID and its uses are:

https://openid.net/what/
https://openid.net/where/
https://openid.net/get/

The page that further explains personal i-names and their uses is https://www.inames.net/personal.html.

As for the future of OpenID and i-names, I’d put it this way: while Web single sign-on is a good example of how they can be used, I think it’s only the tip of the iceburg. I suspect the most compelling reason to have a personal digital address (that’s not an email address) will be for personal data and relationship management services, such as person-to-person or person-to-business sharing of r-cards (relationship cards, a new type of information card ). This is the type of thing we’re been developing the open source Higgins project to enable.

Besides sheer convenience and privacy protection, this could enable whole new industries such as Vendor Relationship Management – see the VRM Project spearheaded by Doc Searls.

Hope this helps.

]]> By: Jay https://www.incontextblog.com/?p=23&cpage=1#comment-7386 Jay Mon, 25 Aug 2008 20:19:25 +0000 https://www.incontextblog.com/?p=23#comment-7386 Hi, I read somewhere that i-names will be able to be used as OpenIDs. I may have misunderstood though. I guess this is my deeper question - what good are i-names and OpenID at this time? Neither seems to have gathered a lot of support other than for logging into blogs. I went to the OpenID web site and tried some of their sample sites, none I tried worked. It seems that acquisitions by Google and/or Yahoo rendered the OpenID functions of the sample sites (blogger and flickr come to mind) dead. I really am struggling with why i-names or OpenID are of value. They seem like great ideas - single sign on for the web. But the adoption curve for sites that real people use, as opposed to OpenID and i-name geeks, seems minimal. Can you suggest a site that offers, in simple English, a) a coherent explanation as to the current or near-term value of these two and b) an explanation as to how to use my i-name to log into OpenID sites, and c) how to obtain an OpenID. Thanks, it would be much appreciated. Jay Hi,

I read somewhere that i-names will be able to be used as OpenIDs. I may have misunderstood though.

I guess this is my deeper question – what good are i-names and OpenID at this time? Neither seems to have gathered a lot of support other than for logging into blogs.

I went to the OpenID web site and tried some of their sample sites, none I tried worked. It seems that acquisitions by Google and/or Yahoo rendered the OpenID functions of the sample sites (blogger and flickr come to mind) dead.

I really am struggling with why i-names or OpenID are of value. They seem like great ideas – single sign on for the web. But the adoption curve for sites that real people use, as opposed to OpenID and i-name geeks, seems minimal.

Can you suggest a site that offers, in simple English, a) a coherent explanation as to the current or near-term value of these two and b) an explanation as to how to use my i-name to log into OpenID sites, and c) how to obtain an OpenID.

Thanks, it would be much appreciated.

Jay

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